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August West
NATIONALLY, in sacks. 18 for the year. It’s tops in P12, 49th in the nation. SC is 99th in the nation in sacks allowed. 
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Hoss
Just a bad matchup for 'SC, as you posted earlier. Tough, physical team that will punch you in the mouth. It's no accident that 'SC hasn't won in SLC since 2012.

The run game has been non-existent all season for the Trojans and if Utah gets to J.T. early with that pass rush you referenced it could be a very long night.
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NEB4USC
If hugs couldn't win in SLC with Darnold and Ronald Jones, he's not winning with no running game, a sieve of an OL, a heave and hope scheme and no Gustin.  This is gonna get ugly early and go down hill from there.  Nice primer for the ND game.
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Hoss
NEB4USC wrote:
If hugs couldn't win in SLC with Darnold and Ronald Jones, he's not winning with no running game, a sieve of an OL, a heave and hope scheme and no Gustin.  This is gonna get ugly early and go down hill from there.  Nice primer for the ND game.


Agree that this one has the potential to get away from 'SC. First time I've felt like that for a game against a non-name program in as long as I can remember.

Everyone on this board knew what would happen against Stanford and Texas earlier this year and it did. Likewise, we knew what was going to happen against ND and tOSU last year and it did. Those are at least name programs with comparable talent to 'SC. But Utah? USC fans should never have to worry that our team is going to get rolled by the Utes. They have a nice, little program but come on. We are 'SC.

Still, it feels like it's going to be a double digit loss. The Trojans do have their usual massive talent advantage which gives them the chance to stay in it but everything else sure seems to point towards the Utes.

If it does get ugly it will be really interesting to see how the team responds. Getting blown out by Notre Dame, Alabama or Ohio State is one thing. Getting blown out for the 3rd time in 6 games and by a team that was in the Mountain West less than a decade ago? That's something else entirely.
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August West
Hoss wrote:


Agree that this one has the potential to get away from 'SC. First time I've felt like that for a game against a non-name program in as long as I can remember.

Everyone on this board knew what would happen against Stanford and Texas earlier this year and it did. Likewise, we knew what was going to happen against ND and tOSU last year and it did. Those are at least name programs with comparable talent to 'SC. But Utah? USC fans should never have to worry that our team is going to get rolled by the Utes. They have a nice, little program but come on. We are 'SC.

Still, it feels like it's going to be a double digit loss. The Trojans do have their usual massive talent advantage which gives them the chance to stay in it but everything else sure seems to point towards the Utes.

If it does get ugly it will be really interesting to see how the team responds. Getting blown out by Notre Dame, Alabama or Ohio State is one thing. Getting blown out for the 3rd time in 6 games and by a team that was in the Mountain West less than a decade ago? That's something else entirely.


That puts things into perspective.

I still can’t help but think the Gustin loss will have a negative on the team off the field. If we get boatraced Saturday, Gomer could lose his team. Following week we play an upstart ASU team at home...lose that, and shit hits the fan.
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CMIII
Sorry guys, but it needs to be said; Go Utes! 

Ten years ago, that would have been blasphemy, but hard times call for hard measures and until Gomer is gone and his staff with him, USC football as we knew it is but a fond memory. This is the worst coaching staff in the country when you add in who they are coaching. No one gets less out of more than Gomer Helton. I really shouldn't have to resort to rooting for Utah to win as Gomer's ineptness along with Low T and the rest of the Keystone Cops should have the loss covered. That said, I'm getting older and don't want to sit through another wasted decade.
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NEB4USC
CMIII wrote:
Sorry guys, but it needs to be said; Go Utes! 

Ten years ago, that would have been blasphemy, but hard times call for hard measures and until Gomer is gone and his staff with him, USC football as we knew it is but a fond memory. This is the worst coaching staff in the country when you add in who they are coaching. No one gets less out of more than Gomer Helton. I really shouldn't have to resort to rooting for Utah to win as Gomer's ineptness along with Low T and the rest of the Keystone Cops should have the loss covered. That said, I'm getting older and don't want to sit through another wasted decade.
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NEB4USC
Amen
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August West
CMIII wrote:
Sorry guys, but it needs to be said; Go Utes! 

Ten years ago, that would have been blasphemy, but hard times call for hard measures and until Gomer is gone and his staff with him, USC football as we knew it is but a fond memory. This is the worst coaching staff in the country when you add in who they are coaching. No one gets less out of more than Gomer Helton. I really shouldn't have to resort to rooting for Utah to win as Gomer's ineptness along with Low T and the rest of the Keystone Cops should have the loss covered. That said, I'm getting older and don't want to sit through another wasted decade.


sad its come to this....I don’t have to cheer for a loss, Gomer is more than capable of achieving those on his own.
I just feel bad for the kids, this isn’t what they signed up for when they comitted to SC.
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909trojan
And here's the dilemma. We can't run the ball because we just can't with this O Line. So we will have to throw it. A lot. And frankly, JT has not looked very mobile in the pocket this year. He clearly doesn't have Sam's escape ability so i expect a few sacks. Adding to the problem is that we just aren't adept at quick slants and short to medium throws like WSU is. The cougs beat the utes with those quick throws and didn't need too run the ball or even bother to try. But our pass plays take too long and expose JT to a beating. I hope the coaches throw in some wr screens and gulp sideline passes to mix things up.
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August West
909trojan wrote:
And here's the dilemma. We can't run the ball because we just can't with this O Line. So we will have to throw it. A lot. And frankly, JT has not looked very mobile in the pocket this year. He clearly doesn't have Sam's escape ability so i expect a few sacks. Adding to the problem is that we just aren't adept at quick slants and short to medium throws like WSU is. The cougs beat the utes with those quick throws and didn't need too run the ball or even bother to try. But our pass plays take too long and expose JT to a beating. I hope the coaches throw in some wr screens and gulp sideline passes to mix things up.


We have one of the best WR corps in the nation, you'd think we would throw 25-30 inside slants, in routes (and occasional sluggos to keep them honest) a game...but we rarely use the middle of the field. We consistently handcuff our WRs to the sidelines, giving the D an extra defender.
We get great TES too, you'd think we'd use them like say, oh, Oklahoma? They understand how to use the TE effectively.
Uttely insane how little we get out of our players.
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NEB4USC
Need to have good snaps to run quick slants. That's not happening.
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909trojan
NEB4USC wrote:
Need to have good snaps to run quick slants. That's not happening.


Touche
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August West
NEB4USC wrote:
Need to have good snaps to run quick slants. That's not happening.


You keep wrecking my plans....
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NEB4USC
August West wrote:


You keep wrecking my plans....


My work here is done...
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